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BerichtGeplaatst: 03 Feb 2006 7:34    Onderwerp: Thema 2007/2 : Onderzeeboten Reageer met quote

Zie hier een sticky met de uitleg over dit topic.
http://www.forumeerstewereldoorlog.nl/viewtopic.php?t=756
Deze maand is het dus onderzeebootmaand geworden.

Gewijzigd op 05/04/2007 door Regulus1 : Dit thema wordt hernomen als het kwartaalthema 2 van 2007
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BerichtGeplaatst: 03 Feb 2006 10:48    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote



bron http://peterbrouwers.tripod.com/id25.html

De geschiedenis van de Nederlandse onderzeedienst begint pas echt op 21 december 1906. Op die dag werd de Onderzeedienst opgericht, toen de eerste onderzeeboot bij de Koninklijke Marine in dienst werd gesteld. Deze eerste onderzeeboot heette eerst Luctor et Emergo (Latijn voor "ik worstel en kom boven"), maar werd later herdoopt in Onderzeeboot nr. 1, kortweg O 1. De boot was 20,42 meter lang, 4,88 meter breed en 2,80 meter hoog. De O 1 was van Nederlandse makelij: de Koninklijke Maatschappij De Schelde te Vlissingen heeft de boot gebouwd. In 1904 werd aan de bouw begonnen, in 1905 werd de boot te water gelaten en nog een jaar later werd de O 1 door de marine gekocht voor 430.000 gulden.

bron http://www.marineschepen.nl/school/onderzeedienstgeschiedenis.html
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BerichtGeplaatst: 03 Feb 2006 10:55    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote

Het schip op de foto is de O 5?
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BerichtGeplaatst: 03 Feb 2006 11:18    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote

iets te vlug geknipt en plakt. hier de goeie


De eerste Nederlandse onderzeeboot Hr.Ms. O1 (Luctor et Emergo)
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THE FIRST U-BOATS IN FLANDERS

Starting half October 1914, the biggest part of the coastline of the Belgian province of West-Flanders became occupied by the German Marinedivision, the future Marinekorps Flandern. From the Dutch border till Lombardsijde was now occupied, including the important harbours of Zeebrugge, Oostende and Brugge. The Germans originally had hoped to come also into the possession of Dunkirk and Calais, but this finally had been nothing more than some serious wishful thinking.

The importance of the Belgian harbours was very quickly discovered by a number of personalities of the German admiralty who were looking at the possibilities of using the ports. The harbours of Zeebrugge and Oostende each had a canal leading to the port of Brugge in the hinterland of the province, making Brugge an ideal base for submarines and torpedoboats, destroyers.

On the 15th November a second Marine Division was added to the first one and the Marinekorps Flandern became a fact, under the command of Admiral Ludwig von Schröder, also called the ‘Löwe von Flandern’ or the Lion of Flanders, who was exactly 60 years old.

Already on the 9th of November a very first U-boat entered the harbour of Zeebrugge, which had been completely cleared of mines two days earlier. It was the U12 which ran out again the next morning for an operation before Dover. On the 11th it sank the torpedogunboat Niger near the Deal LV, returning the next day to Zeebrugge because of bad weather. The first victim of the U-boat offensive from a Belgian port was a fact. On the 16th U12 ran out again towards Boulogne.

On the 26th also U11 ran in about 1600 hours. The orders of her CO, Kap.lt. von Suchodoletz, were very clear, he was to operate from Zeebrugge.

On the 11the December U12 returned together with the U5. In the mean time U11 was already active on the North Sea and had not been heard of since some days before. The next day some Allied papers mentioned the sinking of a U-boat. It became very clear that this had to be the U11. In fact she ran on a mine on the 9th while surfaced near the Oostende bank at 1335 hours. The wreck is located and identified.

On the 13th U5 and U12 ran out from Zeebrugge but had to return because of the weather.

On the 23rd December U12 was at sea, but found no enemy activity. The next day also the U24 entered Zeebrugge and ran out again on the 27th. She was to return on the 9th of January 1915 and this was a reason for celebrations as she sank the British battleship Formidable on the 1st off Portland Bill.

Another big success from the Flanders harbours and for von Schröder reason enough to make a remark in the Kriegstagesbuch of the naval units of the Marinekorps Flandern, in fact asking for more U-boats and torpedoboats that were to operate from Flanders at the Admiralty staff in Berlin.

On the 10th U12 ran out for a long distance operation but had to return after two days because of bad weather again. Clearly showing how vulnerable these early U-boats were at the time.

On the 14th U24 was leaving for operations near Boulogne and U12 near Wandelaar LV. On the 22nd both ships just escaped damage in the Zeebrugge harbour during a bombing raid. The next day U12 returned to Helgoland.

On the 27th U29 ran into the port of Zeebrugge and the next day U24 ran out again. On the 30th U29 was to operate in the Channel but had to return again because of the weather.

On the 11th of February von Schröder received some bad news. The Admiralty in Berlin had no plans at all to station any U-boats at Flanders ports. They found the harbours not safe enough, to close to the enemy and only to be used in case of need. In other words the U-boats operating from Flanders remained under the command of Berlin and not of von Schröder.
The British seemed to confirm one of the arguments by paying a visit to the Belgian coast with a rather large fleet.

The 15th U8 entered Oostende. Three days later the U-boat started war against merchant vessels near the British coast. U8 ran out on the 21st, returning with the U20 on the 26th.

The 4th March was a day with good and bad news. The Admiralty in Berlin had decided to start with the preparations to station a few smaller types of U-boats at Flanders. On the other hand U8 was lost that day.

This decision needs some more background information. Fact is that the Belgian coast was very often the target of British ships, shelling the city of Oostende most of the time. However early 1915 was taken a start with the construction of a large number of coastal batteries between Raversijde and the Dutch border. Starting with smaller calibres such as the 5, 8.8 and 10.5 cm and ending with the enormous 38 cm guns of for example the Deutschland battery at Bredene or the Pommern at Koekelare. About 44 of these emplacements were to rise at the coast, protecting in a very effective way the coastline from further Allied shipping visits. And if it was the case, they were very short visits !

On the 10th of March the U29 left Oostende, the ship of the famous Lt.z.S. Otto Weddingen who sank on the 22nd of September 1914 the British cruisers Aboukir, Hohue and Cressy in less than an hour. Eight days later U29 became a victim of the HMS Dreadnought and the early U-boat weapon lost it’s first living legend.

The same day U28 entered bringing along two Dutch ‘Beuteschiffe’.

On the 21st and 24th March U28 ran out for small operations. On the 27th of March, we read, underlined in pencil in the Kriegstagesbuch of von Schröder : UB10 als Erste der kleine U-boote in Brugge. Two days later UB4 followed. Von Schröder notes : U-Flottille Flandern in Dienst gestellt. U-boat Flott. Flandern enters service…



U-BOOTFLOTTILLE FLANDERN

In reality the U-Bootflottille Flandern was officially erected two days later, and Korvetten Kapitän Karl Bartenbach became the unit’s commanding officer.

Early 1915 were also made the plans to make of the Flemish harbours real warbases. In Brugge for example no less than 14.000 people worked at the harbour on the Kaiserliche Werft. Many of them were civilians (over 4000), German technical personnel and harbourspecialists (over 5000). They started with laying electricity, construction of U-boatbunkers, bunkers, drydocks, floating docks, storage hangars,…
The U-boat bunkers were the most spectacular realisations together with the floating docks. Also in Zeebrugge and Oostende were constructed a number of U-boatshelters and in Oostende also some new drydocks.
Needless to say that all these installations did attract a large number of enemy planes and bombardments. To give just an example, about 6000 bombs fell on Brugge, killing 123 civilians and wounding 243. About 700 civilian houses were destroyed or badly damaged. The damages in the harbour itself were most of the time zero ! In a number of cases some ships got damaged as did smaller unimportant installations.

During April 1915 still other U-boats used the Flanders ports. U24, U28 and U31 were amongst them. On the 2april UB5 also arrived at Brugge. In fact these ships came from Germany in parts. They were reassembled at Hoboken, Antwerp and taken from there on pontoons to Brugge by the canals. The 8th of April also UB15 arrived and the next day UB ran out towards the Noordhinder LV. On the 10th of April at 1024 hours it torpedoed a steamer which sank immediately. The first victim of the U-bootflottille Flandern was a fact. Two days later UB15 was back in. The next day one of the most famous ships, not to say one of the legendary ships of the unit left port to operate on a line between Outer Gabbard and the Noordhinder LV, it was the UB10. However this operation was not successful and they returned two days later. That same 15th of April UB5 sank another steamer at 0715 hours and came back in the same afternoon.

More and more ships arrived. UB13 on the 16th and on the 19th the UB6. In may also arrived the first U-boats of the UC I class in Brugge. The very first minefield to be layed by these minelaying U-boats was located south of the Goodwin LV and was the so called Sperre 1. It was layed by the UC11 on the 31st May 1915. Not even 24 hours later it took it’s very first victim, the British destroyer Mohawk. The British admiralty was quite puzzled with the fact that they could not find out how this mine came here.

A whole number of other minefields followed in the three months to come, and the results were quite good as no less than 23 merchant vessels, 16 fishing boats and 2 British torpedoboats went to the bottom of the North Sea. Not talking about the 5 merchant vessels and 2 destroyers damaged ! And the British Admiralty still remained with the same questions : where did these mines come from ?

Only the incident with the UC2 would change this matter. The U-boat sank on the 2nd July 1915 by accident and was raised by the Royal Navy, who soon discovered that this was no ordinary submarine, but a complete new type of minelayers. So if you ever heard that British Intelligence and other spies did a tremendous work, forget about it !

In October 1915 no less than 16 U-boats were operational from the Zeebrugge and Oostende harbours. The ships came now directly over the sea from Germany to Flanders.

On the 6th of November would also be the first U-boat crew interned in the Netherlands. The UC8 of W. Schmidt ran on a sandbank off Terschelling due to bad navigation and the Dutch thankfully took over the U-boat in service of their own majesty, the queen as the M1.

Three days later the UB17 sank the French destroyer Branlebas. Even after the war the French and British were convinced that it had ran on a mine and that in no way a torpedo did sink it !

Also worth mentioning meanwhile is the fact that the U-boats were escorted by the seaplanes of the Seeflugstation Flandern at Zeebrugge when they entered or left the harbours at Flanders. This gave them the necessary protection against enemy planes and was able to warn them in case of enemy naval activity in the area.

In the beginning days of the submarine war, things very often were still very chivalresque, as the crews of merchant vessels very often did get some time to leave their vessel, after which it was or torpedoed or blown to pieces with charges if it was a smaller ship, as torpedoes were after all still very expensive weapons, not to waste on any kind of ship.
Sometimes this knightly behaviour went even further as the sloops often received emergency rations and sometimes even were towed into the neighbourhood of friendly coasts.

Some commanders did have a very good reputation on that matter, others had a one that was really bad.

In 1916 the U-boat war started to gain speed from the Flemish harbours and this can also clearly be remarked by the numbers of losses concerning BRT’s.

On the 24th March the UB29 torpedoed the packet-boat Sussex, but the ship didn’t sink very fast and was able to reach a safe harbour. First they had thought that they had run onto a mine, but once they could inspect the damage it became very clear that they had been hit by a torpedo which had led to the loss of 50 human lives and a whole bunch of protests followed immediately at the address of Germany. Also from the side of US president Wilson over the loss of American lives on the ship.
The result was that of the 27th of March only military targets could be attacked by submarines. This kind of doing and the yes you did, no I did not mentality between Germany and the US still went on for some time until in 1917 the unlimited U-boat war was declared.

On March the 29th, the very first anniversary of the U-Flottille Flandern, one of the most renown U-boat commanders ever, Kap.Lt. Otto Steinbrinck received the Pour le Mérite, Germany’s highest decoration from the emperor Wilhelm II.

On the 27th of April a quasi completely intact UC-boat fell in British hands. The sources vary on what really happened. Some say that the U-boat had stranded on a sandbank, other say that the boats was floating adrift because of damage sustained from running on a sandbank. Whatever may be the truth, fact is that the HMS Firedrake took the whole crew prisoner. The last man on board had still tried to blow up the ship but all he achieved was blowing a hole in the hull, and the fact that the mines came loose in their racks. UC5 was towed to a dry-dock at Harwich for restoration and finally was displayed to the public at Temple Pier on the Thames river for propaganda purposes. Later the U-boat even was moved to New York, and stood there in three pieces exhibited again for propaganda purposes and more especially to sell more Liberty Bonds.

Sometimes U-boat crews were very inventive in times of need. On the 25th of July the UC6 experienced engine trouble and still had 90 miles to go to Zeebrugge. They started sailing home with a self constructed mast and sail ! UB19 took them on tow for the last part of their journey.

On the 14th August the merchant ship war retook and neutral and other vessels could again be attacked.

In September also new U-boats were delivered in Flanders from the UCII type. Not only had these more storage room for mines (18 instead of 12) but they also were armed with torpedoes. Nothing luxurious as already half of the UCI type submarines had been lost, in most of the cases due to the fact that these were as good as unable to defend themselves.
On the other hand the successes booked with the mines were to big to stop this kind of warfare. Statistics showed clearly that in the period May till July 1916, about 49.700 BRT were lost and from August till September again 60.000 BRT.

In the same time the chivalry at sea started to disappear. And this had it’s very good reasons. The British made more and more use of the so called Special Service Ships and Q-ships. Very often smaller vessels, looking quite helplessly so that the U-boat commanders decided not to waste a torpedo on them but to sink them by other means. So they went quite closely to them to finish them with charges or the deck gun. Once in range a sloop was no sloop, or a construction on the deck was nothing else than a good camouflaged gun. Some carried even a few guns.

However the q-ships were not always as successful as they are shown in many books and other stories. Very often it came to a gun battle between the subs and the Q-ships, very often undecided, and in a number of cases a torpedo was fired at the target, eliminating the small vessel. In a number of cases the Q-ships were sunk by gunfire also.
Still quite a considerable number of U-boats were sunk by the Q-ships. In a number of cases the U-boat crews were really slaughtered by the crews of these ships, even personnel that was drifting helpless in the water. It looks clear that way that on both sides of the front there were war criminals active that were never brought to justice.

For the U-boat commanders the solution was very simple. No more mister nice guy, no more warnings so no more time for the ship crews to leave safely their vessel that was about to be sunk. It just made the war even more inhuman then before. Just the way the U-boat war had started. The British had decided to block Germany and especially all shipping to Germany, starving the German population and what was more the civilians, the result was that the Germans started to use fully the potential of their U-boat weapon. This only resulting in still more casualties, not only on the front, but also in the homes of those who were not fighting. Thanks to the Q-ships more victims fell at sea also.
In the mean time the U-boats of Zeebrugge and Oostende started to operate further and further away from their home-bases. The Gulf of Biscaj and the southern Irish sea were no longer exceptions.

In the winter of 1916-1917 more and more subs of the UC type arrived at the Flemish harbours. 1917 would become a wonderful year concerning the results booked from the ports in Flanders. More ships clearly meant more possibilities and in January 1917 the Flandern Flottille had at it’s disposal no less than 22 submarines and in March already 38. Also to keep in mind was the unlimited submarine war that Germany had declared on the 1st of January 1917 !

However, the same year the German U-boat weapon would also have to pay a toll. Between January and April 1917 only 4 submarines were lost in Flanders. But starting from the month of May these figures became more dramatic and sometimes 4 submarines were lost each month ! Fact was that the torpedo-boats of the Flandern Flottille spent already most of their time in clearing and destroying minefields, laid by the British. Not only minefields had to be destroyed but also a large number of net-barrages. For these last ones a special torpedo had been developed from German side to enable the submarine to get free when trapped in one. There was also a net-cutter on the bow of the submarines.

In April 1917 alone no less than 621.645 BRT was sunk by the U-boats. Needless to say that for the Allies it became more then time to do something about it if they still wanted to win the war.

The British commander Haig, had the idea that it had to be possible to start a new offensive in Flanders, his favourite territory to do so, break through the German lines and grasp the Flemish harbours or at least Oostende, leaving Zeebrugge also to close to the Allies to be still of use to the German imperial navy. Anyone would and could have known that such a plan was pure madness, except the British command, which was nothing else then the result of all kind of political games were each and everyone was trying to put it’s good friends on high military posts. In the night of the 6th on the 7th of June 1917 all hell broke loose and the ridges of Mesen and Wijtschate were taken by the Allies. On the 12th of July the Allies tried to force another breakthrough with the use of mustard gas, however without any results. On the 15th Allied artillery started to batter the German lines. On the 31st an offensive was started between Diksmuide and Leie, but it was doomed to fail as it was and had been raining cats and dogs. The third battle of Ypres became a catastrophe. On the 30th of October started the famous battle of Passendale, which was taken on the Germans on the 6th of November. Four days later the offensive came to an end, with a result of maximum 10 kilometers advance in only one small area ! Haig had failed deeply !

Between June and September more and more new U-boats arrived in the mean time in Flanders. Also a number of the brand-new UBIII class, the numbers 54 till 57. Also the rest of the year new subs kept arriving, most of them being UB types who came in newly build or from other units. However in the same period many submarines were lost and also many famous names of U-boot commanders who often had become also living legends in their ranks. And with them also the knowledge disappeared that they otherwise were sharing with the many newcomers.

On the 1st of October 1917 also a second U-Flottille Flandern followed, and from that moment on Korv.Kap. Bartenbach could call himself Führer der Unterseeboote Flandern. His work was clearly appreciated in the fatherland as he received Germany’s highest decoration, the Pour le Mérite on the 17th of October the same year. It has to be said that Bartenbach was very respected by his men and commanders, especially this was the case in the early war years. Later it became more difficult to get to know his crews, as some of them disappeared after only one or a few missions, not allowing them to get to know each other.

Early 1918 can be suspected also some battle fatigue. Some U-boats and their crews surrender rather easily while others have themselves interned for not very clear or not really dramatic reasons. Spain seemed to have been quite popular for this.

In April 1918 the most successful and most renown U-boat commander of the Flandern Flottilles retired from active service at sea. Otto Steinbrinck was near complete physical exhaustion and became 1st Admiral staff officer with the Führer der U-Boote Flandern, Bartenbach.

Many other U-boat commanders received Germany’s highest decoration the Pour le Mérite as Steinbrinck had doe before them. Amongst them were Kap.lt. Paul Hundius on the 18th August 1918, Oblt.z.S. Reinhold Saltzwedel on the 20th August 1917, Obt.z.S. Johannes Lohs in April 1918, Kap.lt. Ralph Wenninger on the 30th March 1918. Wenninger was also the only one of these to survive the war…

It is clear that more and more losses were suffered. On the 23rd of April 1918 there was the famous raid of St.-George’s Day by the British, in which was attempted to block the harbours of Zeebrugge and Oostende by sinking block ships in the harbour mouths. At Oostende this failed catastrophically while Zeebrugge became partly blocked. Also a second attempt on the 10th of May in the harbour of Oostende ended in catastrophe with the HMS Vindictive.

It is and remains one of the holy houses what concerns the Zeebrugge story in Great-Britain. The British war office spend so much propaganda on the matter that the inventors of it started to believe themselves that they had succeeded. Even nowadays the Imperial War Museum has a top secret list with propaganda books on which also a few on Zeebrugge are mentioned.
The very best example of this way of doing is The Glory of Zeebrugge by Keeble Howard, published in London by Chatto and Windus in 1918. The so called Official Narratives mentioned in it are indeed authentic and nothing else then pure propaganda.

Fact is also that when Admiral Keyes returned with his fleet at Dover harbour, the medals and decorations were already official even on a moment that it was not know if the operation was a success and what exactly had happened at Oostende !
In one operation more Victoria Crosses were awarded than that had received some units during the complete duration of the war ! It is unbelievable this could happen, the more as that the day following the first raid, one of the smaller U-boats left en re-entered the Zeebrugge harbour !
Fact however was also that Germany was winning the war on that moment on the land front and that the British and the Allies needed very desperately a victory. Zeebrugge most certainly was a moral victory, so the real facts of what happened at Zeebrugge were to be forgotten.
They even went that far in their story telling that they claimed that even of the harbour of Oostende was completely blocked, the German ships all were trapped in the harbour of Brugge. They even went further saying that the German commanders had forged their logbooks when they wrote down their operations from the Zeebrugge and Oostende harbours after St.-George’s Day.

However anybody with a little brains could quickly start demanding himself why the Allies continued bombing the locks at Zeebrugge, other parts of the harbour and the harbour at Brugge. After the war it became even more difficult explaining how the destroyers and U-boats that were trapped at Zeebrugge possibly could have returned to Germany. Seems that they all of a sudden had vanished into the air of Flanders…

By the end of September 1918 the subs from the U-Flottille Flandern 1 and II started indeed to return to Germany.
Shortly afterwards the installations of the ports of Zeebrugge, Oostende and Brugge were destroyed by the German’s while retreating.

No less than 2554 merchant vessels (or about 4.5 million BRT) were destroyed by the U-boats of the both Flandern Flottilles, not even mentioning the warships that they had taken out of action or destroyed.

It is the more unbelievable that the story of these U-boat crews is almost forgotten although they were more successful concerning number of ships sunk then the crews of WW II.


THE U-BOAT BASES OF BRUGGE, ZEEBRUGGE AND OOSTENDE

When we talk about U-boat bases we immediately think about the enormous U-boat bunkers of the second World War at for example Saint Nazaire. However we forget that the U-boat bunker is not something that was invented in this period of time, but in the 1st World War.

The Flanders harbours would become very important U-boat bases, but the nerve centre of the triangle Oostende-Brugge-Zeebrugge would become the harbour of Brugge.

BRUGGE HARBOUR

First of all a number of floating docks were prefabricated in Germany an than brought in pieces to Brugge Harbour where they were constructed. A total of eight big ones and three small ones were delivered each of them having an independent pumping installation. They were to be used not only for the U-boats but also for the torpedo-boats and destroyers.

Floating dock N° 1 had a length of 50 meters by 15 meters
N°2 was 100 meters by 17 meters
N°3 was 100 meters by 23 meters
N°4 was 100 meters by 15 meters
N°5 was identical to N°4
N°6 was 60 meters by 12 meters
N°7 was 100 meters by 20 meters but was still in construction by the end of the war. So was N°8.
The numbers 9, 10 and 11 were much smaller types and were used for the U-boats.

In the Groot Handelsdok (Big Trade dock) came two ‘Kragunterstanden’. These were in fact two enormous roofs of metal and concrete hanging over the water of the dock under which the U-boats had some degree of safety against aerial attacks. Let’s say that they were not strong enough to resist a direct hit.

Facing the canal Brugge-Zeebrugge, the one on the right side was 73 meters long, the one on the left side 200 meters long. Between the two other docks, on the left side of the canal there was some kind of a peninsula in which two large concrete U-boat bunkers were constructed each measuring 70 on 10 meters. But the most important construction was an enormous bunker with 8 compartments called the 8 Blessings by the local population. Construction of it started in 1917 and it was big enough to house 8 of the large UBIII class submarines.

Two very large bunkers were constructed in the harbour area measuring 17 on 26 meters and 26 on 36 meters who served as assembly hall for respectively the sea-mines and the torpedo’s. The small number of doors and windows in it could be protected from air raids by concrete panels of 40 cm thick which ran on small rails. Both bunkers were just next to a real railway.

There were also two underground gallery’s. A first one of 350 meters and a second one of 200 meters.

Around these installations stood 13 AA batteries.

Until today there have been discussions between historians if there were yes or no a number of these so called Kragunterstanden along the canal from Brugge to Zeebrugge. And although many have suggested there were a number of them for protection against enemy planes we have never seen any of these of photographs from that time. So it still remains some kind of mystery even today.

ZEEBRUGGE HARBOUR

One should expect very important installations in this harbour as most of the shipping-traffic was coming from this harbour, but that was not the case at all. Of course there were the existing installations on the harbour mole but not much was added to them especially for the U-boats. More value was given here to the protection of the seaplane base on it.

On the eastern side of the mole was also a Kragunterstand. We don’t know it’s measurements but expect it not to be larger than the smallest one at Brugge, 73 meters in total.

In what is now the military port of Zeebrugge there was also a very large concrete U-boat bunker. Although bunker is not the exact word for it. It looked more like a construction of concrete piles with a thick concrete roof over it. No measurements are known but it should have been in the area of 80 by 10 meters.









OOSTENDE HARBOUR

This city always has been trouble concerning it’s history. The people from the city just don’t seem to bother to care, not even a little bit, for their historic documents. Old maps of the harbour are very big curiosities and photo’s are even harder to find. And concerning the installations of the Kaiserliche Marine it was no better…

Fortunately the Belgian government cares more about it’s papers and so we were able to trace back a few things.
Fact is for example that there was constructed a floating dock of 2000 tons. It was in the dock of the former Belgian Navy.

On one side of the dock were the existing workshops of the Belgian navy. On the same side there was also a Kragunterstand, probably not even 50 meters long.

On the other side were constructed two dry-docks that were long enough to have two submarines in them one behind the other.

Protection of the harbour installations was done by the Battery Gross Herzog that could be found at two places in the harbour. The southern part had four 8.8 cm guns, reduced to two by the end of the war. Two other pieces stood closer to the north near the sea. There was also a third location with AA guns more specific also four 8.8 cm guns which listened to the name Friedrich.

It could be very busy in the harbour of Oostende. For example in November 1917 there was the visit of 63 submarines and 36 torpedo-boats for repairs or revision. There were also 55 other vessels visiting the harbour on their way back home or joining their units.

Jabbeke, 25th November 2002
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Wat fotokes, we beginnen met een UC II type duikboot in de achterhaven van Brugge en enkele beelden van de grote duikbootbunker die men er in de tweede helft van 1917 begon te bouwen en die begin 1918 afgewerkt werd. Dit zijn unieke foto's die nog nooit iemand gezien heeft, maar die spijtig genoeg in extreem slechte staat verkeerden toen ik ze scande.

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regulus, een hoop code, maar geen fotos tre zien...
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Wat fotokes, we beginnen met een UC II type duikboot in de achterhaven van Brugge en enkele beelden van de grote duikbootbunker die men er in de tweede helft van 1917 begon te bouwen en die begin 1918 afgewerkt werd. Dit zijn unieke foto's die nog nooit iemand gezien heeft, maar die spijtig genoeg in extreem slechte staat verkeerden toen ik ze scande.










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Wel HTML maar de codes voor websites ! Oud worden hé, zucht ! Sad
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Schilderij van Claus Bergen, genaamd "De Commandant":



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Binnenkort (1/4) heropening, met een unicum op WO I gebied die we gaan aanbieden, namelijk een grote reeks foto's van het interieur van een Duitse WO I duikboot, en een unieke reeks die komt uit de Amerikaanse Nartional Archives van o.a. U35, maar de hoofdmoot zal de Flandern Flottilles worden en enkele originele documenten van een duikboot die bij deze eenheid diende.
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http://www.ub88.org/movies/sinking.wmv

http://www.ub88.org/movies/ub88abc7.wmv

Een voorsmaakje van wat jullie mogen verwachten het volgend kwartaal
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Hmm en we zijn dus het volgend kwartaal, eens kijken wat ik zo allemaal kan terugvinden ondertussen. Misschien even opmerken dat het zeker niet verboden is om ook wat te posten, integendeel ! Evil Embarassed
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Laten we misschien openen met wat vooroorlogse foto's van de allereerste Duitse U-boten :




















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Enkele foto's van de binnenzijde van de UB88 uit 1919 toen hij in Amerikaanse handen was. Deze foto's zijn zeer uniek omdat er bijna geen foto's bewaard gebleven zijn van het interieur van Duitse duikboten uit die periode.


















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Nog enkele interieurfoto's van een duikboot van de gewone U-klasse uit het begin van de oorlog 1914/1915






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Enkele van de blauwdrukken van achtereenvolgens de UB I, UB II en UB III klasse duikboten, Duitse kustduikboten die vooral vanuit Vlaanderen en in de Middelandse Zee opereerden.







Misschien toch nog even vermelden dat het befaamde type VII uit de Tweede Wereldoorlog bij de Duitse U-Bootwaffe grotendeels gebaseerd was op de UB III types uit WO I !
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BerichtGeplaatst: 05 Apr 2007 21:39    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote

Een paar foto's nu ook nog gevonden in betere kwaliteit en wat aanvullingen, deze zonder personeel, de eerste drie dus, zijn genomen op de U 140.

De voorlaatste foto toont het laden van een torpedo op een van de externe torpedobuizen op een type UC II, zoals deze vanuit Vlaanderen opereerden. Met zachtheid staat duidelijk niet in het woordenboek...

Onderste foto is vermoedelijk een 10.5 cm kanon op een niet nader geidentificeerd type.














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Enkele van mijn teksten over de werven in Duitsland waar de duikboten gebouwd werden, die ik maakte voor de website van U-boat net.

A.G. Weser, Bremen
81 commissioned U-boats

Founded on 8 November 1843 as the Eisengiesserei und Maschinenfabrik Waltjen und Leonhard, becoming Waltjen & Co in 1849 this firm only started very slowly in ship construction. The Roland in 1846, the Falcke in 1865. On 26th March 1873 the activities and firm became part of the AG Weser and the very first important order came from the Kaiserliche Marine. Between 1875 and 1881 eleven gunboats of the Wespe Class were built by the yard. After this order the construction was again mainly for civil use. Halfway through the eighties a serious dredging was done on the Weser river, again making Bremen an important harbour. Just before the turn of the century the harbour grew very heavily.
This was also the moment at which the AG Weser decided to buy new grounds at Gröpelingen where there were constructed five new slips. In 1904 everything was ready at the new location and Bremen was abandoned for further ship construction. New installations followed and between 1905 and 1914 no less then 40 passenger and merchant ships were constructed on the new wharf. During the First World War they constructed small cruisers and U-boats.

D’Equevilley, who worked before at the Germaniawerft yard, was asked by the AG Weser to construct a new U-boat in 1912. As they now had their own U-Bootkonstruktionsbüro they immediately became part of the Ms Type U-boat program of the Marine-Amt. The first U-boats constructed over there were however not of the Ms Type but were UB I class subs, the UB 9-UB 15 series. Also UC I series and UB and UC II series were constructed at Weser. By 1917 most of the work went into the construction of the UB III class. Three UC III were ordered in 1917 also but never got finished. 14 more UB III’s ordered in June 1918 were never started.

Also three U-boats for the Austrian-Hungarian navy were constructed over there, the U15-U17 series at Pola. AG Weser was also responsible for the plans of the U 27-U 32 series and the U 40 that were constructed at Pola and Fiume for the Austrian-Hungarian navy and they also gave a licence for construction of three U-boats in Sweden, the Bävern was constructed at Kockums at Malmö and the Illern and Uttern at the state naval shipyard of Karlskrona.
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Bremer Vulkan, Vegesack
8 commissioned U-boats

Located in Vegesack the shipyard made a few Ms Type submarines under a licence from the Germaniawerft yard. However Bremer Vulkan is better know for the fact that they constructed the second ship to raise U-boats, the Cyklop. Originally it was planned to have this one constructed at the Kaiserliche Werft at Danzig.
The order for U 160-163 was completed and all U-boats ready before the end of the war. Concerning the series U 164-172 only the first two ships were ready. The U 166 and 167 were finished in 1919; the others were still in construction and finished for about 75%.

The series U 210-212 were started; the U 247-262 series were ordered in June 1918 but never started.
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Germaniawerft, Kiel
84 commissioned U-boats

The yard was founded in 1867 by Lloyd Foster as the Norddeutsche Schiffbau Actien Gesellschaft in Gaarden am Kieler Hafen. It was located in the harbour at Kiel. The idea of the yard was to construct war and merchant vessels. They built the first yacht of the emperor, the Hohenzollern.
The yard had to be sold in 1879 and became property of the Mäkisch-Schlesischen Machinenbau und Hütten-Aktiengesellschaft vorm. F.A. Egells. They constructed steam machines in Berlin since 1822. A few year later this firm also got in trouble and in November 1882 a new firm was founded, the Schiff und Maschinenbau Germania.

A few more warships were constructed and the wharf also had a very good reputation concerning the construction of torpedo boats. However the financial problems were never far away and by the end of August 1896 Krupp took them over, as they were very interested in building warships themselves. Between 1898 and 1902 the wharf doubled its surface and finally became 22.5 ha. New and large slips were constructed. In 1902 the wharf changed of name and became the Friedrich Krupp Germaniawerft.

At the end of January 1902 they started working with the Spanish engineer Raymondo Lorenzo d'Equevilley-Montjustin for the construction of a U-boat. In July construction started and in June 1903 the Forelle as the U-boat was named, was taken by a crane to the water. It was a success. Brazil wanted three of them. In the meantime a new type was constructed also. In April 1904 the Russian government ordered three of these U-boats. They were the Karp, Karass and Kambala. And the wharf also could sell the Forelle to Russia.

Austria and Norway were also interested in the new type U-boat and in Germany it was decided to buy also a ship of the same type (the U 1). Meanwhile in 1904 the Kaiserliche Marine its Torpedo Inspektion had decided to found the U-Bootkonstruktionsbüro where Gustave Berling in 1905-1906 had developed a new U-boat with better speed under and above surface. As long as d'Erquevilley was working at the Germaniawerft, the Kaiserliche Marine had no enthusiasm at all to give the yard secret material has he was after all a foreigner.

On 1 July 1907 a new engineer, Hans Techel, became responsible for the U-boat construction on the wharf, changing the opinion of the German navy on the Germaniawerft. Techel was to become an almost legendary figure in U-boat construction. On 8 of April 1908 the wharf received the order for U 5-8 and in 1909 for U 16.

The wharf also constructed its own diesel engines, resulting in a submarine for Italy, the Antropo, and a new order from the German navy for U-boats with these diesel engines in March 1911. From this moment on the Germaniawerft would become the most important U-boat construction wharf of Germany. Also before outbreak of war two own U-boat designs were made for Norway and Austria. During the war not only U-types but also many of the UB and UC's were constructed over there as were the trade U-boats Deutschland and Bremen.
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Kaiserliche Werft, Danzig
46 commissioned U-boats

On 26 June 1844 a piece of land on both sides of the Toten Weichsel at Danzig became property of the Royal Prussian Government. It was originally meant as a depot at anchoring space for the Amazone, the only warship they had at the moment. In 1848 Prussia started constructing more warships and needed its own shipyard for these means. This became the Danzig.
In 1850 new grounds were bought, further constructions followed and in the late 1870's there was a very large extension of the facilities. In 1906 for example the Emden was constructed over there.

It seems as that the very first plans for construction of a submarine on the shipyard date back from 1865, but it was never realised. In the autumn of 1904 works started on initiative of Grandadmiral von Tirpitz. But the final order came only on 4 March 1906 with the U 2. It was found to be no success and the boat was spending more time along the pier than in service! The following constructions from the yard, U 3 and U 4 and also the U 9 - U 12 series were much improved designs.

In 1909 parts of the yard for U-boat construction were enlarged and more buildings rose on these grounds for the U-boat construction. With a few exceptions most of the U-boats were constructed here until the war broke out. In 1916 followed also the construction of a few UC boats, the UC 55 through UC 60.

Later in the war more UC's of the Type III were to be constructed however the series UC 80-86 were not completed and annulations followed in 1919. The same happened to the UC 139-146, UC 147-152 and U 213-218 series.
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Vulcan, Hamburg
68 commissioned U-boats

In 1851 Früchtenicht and Brock started at Bredow, near Stettin the very first German shipyard for iron made ships. Some smaller ships were constructed and the yard started to enlarge. In 1856 the founders of the yard got into financial problems. A group of eight entrepreneurs and politicians from Stettin and Berlin took it over the beginning of the next year under the name Stettiner Maschinenbau AG Vulcan. After some time they did get in financial trouble as well but saw the end of the problem by constructing more locomotives instead of ships. Ship construction continued however and in 1864 the yard had its first contact with the U-boat idea. When the famous Wilhelm Bauer returned from Russia he asked the Vulcan AG to make an offer for the construction of his project Küstenbrander. However it looks as that Bauer could not sell his project.
From 1867 on the yard also became active in the construction of warships. In 1876 they finished the Panzerkorvette Preussen and in 1878 the Panzerschiff Sachsen. In 1880 the yard had its first floating dock but in 1883 much was destroyed in a big fire. Reason in fact to modernise the wharf and to buy new grounds to enlarge the yard. Next to the existing 3 slipways 4 new larger ones were constructed. In 1895-1897 they constructed the biggest ship of its time, the Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse with 14.349 BRT. By the turn of the century the yard was the biggest private one of Germany with over 7.000 employees. With the construction of the Kaiser Wilhelm II of 19.360 BRT this was the largest possible ship to be built on the shipyard at Stettin.

In 1905 the wharf decided to go to Hamburg for the construction of large ships and works on this wharf started in 1907, finishing two year later. There were two large slipways and two floating docks. Work started in 1910 with the construction of the Linieschiff Friedrich der Grosse. On the other slipway started the construction of the famous liner Imperator and its enormous 52.116 BRT! Other Linieschiff followed and during the First World War the Hamburg wharf worked for the Kaiserliche Marine only.

In 1912 the yard tried to get its piece of the U-boat cake, but didn’t get any orders. On the 23 November 1914 the wharf did get the first order for 10 U-boats of the UC-type. More orders for U-boats followed, and it has to be noticed that most of the U-boats produced over here were of the UB and UC types. The idea was that the wharf would be used to construct in 1919 the big U-Kreuzer and the UE types.
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BerichtGeplaatst: 05 Apr 2007 21:59    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote

Enkele goede boeken over de Duitse onderzeebootoorlog zijn onder andere, wat deze in antiquariaat betreft :
(het gaat hier om engelstalige korte beschrijvingen die ik maakte voor dezelfde site)

Alarm ! Tauchen !
by - Fürbringer, Werner

(Alarm ! Dive !)
U-Boot in Kampf und Sturm
1933, Ullstein-Verlag, Berlin
Hardcover, 258 pages, 18 photoss
The book gives a complete overview of the career of the author who was one of the more famous U-boat commanders in World War I. He ended his career as a Kapitänleutnant. He served on a number of the Flandern U-boats but started his wartime career on U-20. There is also a preface by Korvettenkapitän Karl Bartenbach, who was the Führer der U-Boote Flandern under Admiral von Schröder.


Ritter der Tiefe
by - Thomas, Lowell Jackson

(Raiders of the Deep)
1931, Deutscher Verlag Berlin
Hardcover, 360 pages, 47 b&w photos
Mr. Thomas wrote this book in the early 1920s, traveling to Germany to interview many of the U-boat skippers and crews from the Kaiser's U-boat fleet. It's written in a "Boys Own" style and conveys a real sense of excitement and adventure with every page. There are stories of surface gun battles with Q ships, the campaigns against the U.S. east coast in 1918, the sinking of several British battleships off Gallipoli, the hair-raising exploits of the Flanders Flotilla, and many more stories of torpedo malfunctions and unbelievably lucky escapes, e.g., "the torpedo that jumped over a boat." It also contains a list of all U-boat commanders and their ships that did not survive the war. Translated into German by U-boat commander Freiherr von Spiegel, who also wrote a German preface.


Torpedo, Achtung ! Los !
by - Marschall, Wilhelm

(Torpedo, Attention ! Fire !)
Erlebnisse im U-Bootkrieg 1917/18
1938, Deutscher Verlag Berlin
Hardcover, 230 pages, 14 photos
Tells about the career of this former U-boat commander who served on UC74 and UB105 in the Mediterranean in the last two years of World War I. He ended his career as a Kapitänleutnant but became Konteradmiral in 1938. The patriotic talk is all over the book, but it still gives a very good idea of what it must have been like on a U-boat in this theatre of the war that is not yet very well known.


U-Boote am Feind
by - Langsdorff, Werner von

(U-boats at War)
Fünfundvierzig deutsche U-Boot Fahrer erzählen
1937, Bertelsmann Verlag
Hardcover, 368 pages, 85 b&w photos
This book contains some reports from former U-boat men, including the later BdU Grossadmiral Dönitz describing his time on SM UB 69. Among the 45 who tell their stories are the most famous U-boat commanders, but also simple sailors or engineers, naval air personnel, etc. Although written just before the war and even during the war, it is a very interesting book to get an idea of what life was like on board U-boats and all kinds of operations they were involved in.


Zeebrügge
by - Bartz, Karl

(Zeebrugge: The English attack on the German U-boat base)
Der englische Angriff auf die deutsche U-Boot Basis
1938,
Hardcover, 195 pages, 26 photos, 1 map
The book gives the German view of the British attacks/raids on the harbours of Zeebrugge and Oostende on St.-George's Day 1918, in which an attempt was made to block both German U-boat harbours. Oostende was a complete failure, Zeebrugge was partially a success but did not keep the German U-boats imprisoned as always has been told. The book is partially fiction as it uses a fictional person to tell the story but gives a very good description of what really happened. Of course due to the period of publishing some nationalistic talk is never really far away.
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Een paar bio's die ik schreef voor U-boat net :

Johannes Lohs
Oberleutnant zur See (Crew 4/09)

Born: 24 Jun, 1889
Dead: 14 Aug, 1918 S Ireland

Oberleutnant zur See

Decorations

Iron Cross 2nd class
Iron Cross 1st Class
24 Apr, 1918 Pour le Mérite

U-boat Commands
UC 75 17 Mar, 1917 - 30 Jan, 1918
UB 57 2 Jan, 1918 - 14 Aug, 1918 (+)


Born on 24 June, 1889 at Einsiedel, Sachsen. Son of plant owner Oswald Lohs. First ran school in his home village and later a grammar school in Chemnitz.
He entered the Kaiserliche Marine on 1 April, 1909. Had several commands as Fahnrich zur See and served from 1st October 1912 on the cruiser Strasburg on which he saw half of the world.

Saw action for the very first time on 28 August, 1914 and was promoted Lt.z.S. in the autumn of 1915. Moved to the U-Bootschule and got his first U-Boat command on UC 75 of the Flandern Flottille on the 17th March 1917, on which he did 9 patrols off the British coast. On 2 January 1918 he became CO of the UB 57, taking over the command of this boat from another legendary U-Boat commander, Otto Steinbrinck. Lohs had also some very good ideas on U-boat warfare and new tactics and in April 1918 he received the Pour le Mérite.

On 3 August he sailed from Zeebrugge for the last time. The last contact he made with the base was on the evening of the 14th, as UB 57 was homeward bound roughly in the area of the Sandiette Bank, east of the Straits of Dover. Nothing more was heard. UB 57 is believed to have run onto a mine. Ships sunk on this last patrol were the Clan Max Vey (5815 BRT), Glenlee (4915 BRT) and City of Brisbane (7094 BRT). In total, Lohs sank approximately 165.000 tons of shippin. Lohs' body washed up on shore a week later; he is buried in the military cemetary at Vlissingen.

On 4 October 1937 the III Unterseebootflottille was named after him at Kiel.
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Reinhold Saltzwedel
Oberleutnant zur See (Crew 4/08)

Born: 23 Nov, 1889
Dead: 2 Dec, 1917 English Channel

19 Sep, 1914 Oberleutnant zur See

Decorations

Iron Cross 2nd class
Iron Cross 1st Class
20 Aug, 1917 Pour le Mérite

U-boat Commands

UB 10 13 Jan, 1916 - 18 Jun, 1916
UC 10 14 Jun, 1916 - 26 Jun, 1916
UC 11 12 Aug, 1916 - 20 Aug, 1916
UC 21 15 Sep, 1916 - 9 Jun, 1917
UC 71 10 Jun, 1917 - 13 Sep, 1917
UB 81 18 Sep, 1917 - 2 Dec, 1917 (+)


Saltzwedel was a Lt.z.S. when war broke out and Adjutant on the Linienschiff Kaiser. He was promoted to Oblt.z.S. On the 19th September 1914.
In May 1915 he went to the U-boot-Schule. Shortly afterwards joined the U-Flottille Flandern where he became Co of UB 10 on the 13th January 1916. In June, from the 14th till the 26th he served as CO on the UC 10 and later UC 11 till the 20th August 1916. On the 15th September he became CO of the UC 21 and on the 10th June 1917 of the UC 71. On the 20th August he was awarded the Pour le Mérite. On the 18th September he became CO of the UB 81.

He died on this ship on the 2nd December 1917 after they had ran on a mine.

He sank a total of 111 merchant vessels or 170.526 BRT! His name was given to the 2 U-Boot Flottille of the Kriegsmarine in Wilhelmshaven.
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Walther Schwieger
Kapitänleutnant (Crew 4/03)

Born: 7 Apr, 1885
Dead: 5 Sep, 1917 North Sea

Kapitänleutnant

Decorations

Iron Cross 2nd class
Iron Cross 1st Class
30 Jul, 1917 Pour le Mérite

U-boat Commands

U 14 1 Aug, 1914 - 15 Dec, 1914
U 20 16 Dec, 1914 - 5 Nov, 1916
U 88 23 Jul, 1916 - 5 Sep, 1917 (+)

Walther Schwieger came from a respected Berlin family and commanded U 20 and the U 88. He would become known to the whole world as the man who sank the linerLusitania on 7 May 1915 or by the nickname the British gave him, “The Baby Killer”.
Over 100 U.S. citizens were lost with on the Lusitania, which served as the basis for much Allied propaganda. The facts were not as innocent as the British claimed; the Lusitania was listed in "Jane's Fighting Ships" as a porental auxiliary cruiser and was carrying munitions and gun parts at the time of her loss. The U.S. strongly protested the loss of life of her citizens.

Schwieger's name would appear on the Admiralty's wanted list of possible war criminals. There was nothing special in this; U-boat commanders often landed on this list if they became too successful against the British.

Schwieger wouldn't survive the war. On 5 September 1917, the U 88 is presumed to have struck a mine while outbound from Germany for the French coast. There were no survivors.
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Paul König
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Dead: 8 Aug, 1933 Gnadau

1914 Kapitänleutnant d.R.

Decorations

1916 Iron Cross 1st Class

Born in 1867 Paul König originally was a Captain in the Merchant navy. During 1914 he became a Kapitänleutnant der Reserve. 1916 became CO of the merchant submarine Deutschland. He took the merchant submarine on two patrols to the US for commercial purposes. He received the Iron Cross 1st Class the same year.
In 1917 he became CO of a Sperrbrechergruppe.

From 1919 until 1931 he was branch leader at the Norddeutschen Lloyd. Paul König died on 8 August, 1933 at Gnadau where is buried.
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De enige deels overlevende duikboot uit WO I van het UB II type is te vinden in Turkije. Hoewel, veel is er niet meer van over :

http://www.isprs.org/istanbul2004/comm5/papers/536.pdf

Enkele delen van U20 zijn te vinden in het Deense Strandingsmuseum :

http://www.strandmus.dk/uk-version/index-uk.htm

Het gaat hier onder andere om het kanon, een propeller.

Het dekkanon, een 88 mm van de U61 is te vinden in het Beierse legermuseum in Ingolstadt.

http://www.bayerisches-armeemuseum.de/

U1 tenslotte, gebouwd in 1906 staat op zijn bijna geheel in het Deutsches Museum te Munchen :

http://www.deutsches-museum.de/
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Regulus 1 @ 05 Apr 2007 23:17 schreef:


U1 tenslotte, gebouwd in 1906 staat op zijn bijna geheel in het Deutsches Museum te Munchen :

http://www.deutsches-museum.de/


Zie ook:
http://www.deutsches-museum.de/fileadmin/Content/Haupthaus/Ausstellungen/A4_LuftRaumSchiff/PDFs/u_boot.pdf

Hierbij de Oostenrijks-Hongaarse U-4 na de oorlog in Fiume-Rijeka. Gebouwd voor de oorlog begon bij de Germania-werf in Kiel.

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Ah eens een onbekende foto voor me ! Thx Hauptmann.

Hier is er nog een reeks uit het archief van de U35, waarbij ze onder andere een paar kustduikboten ontmoeten. De twee eerste foto's zijn van de spectaculairste uit WO I op zee die ooit gemaakt werden, een UBIII type de golven trotserend.

Verder is ook interessant om te zien welke 'sloep' men aan boord had en hoe men torpedo's kon laden op volle zee van een bevoorradingsschip.




















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De volgende reeks is meer over het zakelijke gedeelte van de duikboten, hun eigenlijke doel, het zinken van schepen, het oppikken van overlevenden of de bemanning de kans geven het schip te verlaten voor het gezonken werd hoorde daar ook soms bij. Enkele fascinerende beelden, en er volgen er in de eerste maanden nog veel meer in deze monografie !






















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http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles.php?cat=57&p=215&page=1

Leuk artikel over het Royal Navy Submarine Museum

En hier hun eigen stek :

http://www.rnsubmus.co.uk/
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http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/u-boats.htm

Voor wie meer wil weten over het lot van de Duitse duikboten uit de Eerste Wereldoorlog.
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Een nieuwe lading foto's :





















De haven van Brugge vanuit de lucht
De zinkende Clan Davidson
Op de conning tower, verkleumd van de koude
Nog een zinkend slachtoffer
Laden van een torpedo
Idem, beide in de haven van Brugge
Zinkend zeilschip
Raak ! Torpedohit !
UB 2 en UB 16 in haven Zeebrugge
UB 10 in de haven van Zeebrugge nabij de sluis
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UB12 in de Brugse haven onder een Kragunterstand
Detail van deze foto
Het transport van UB I boten gebeurde per spoor in drie delen, dit is UB13
UB15 op proefvaart
UB40 te Oostende opgeblazen na de terugtocht
UB en UC types in de sluis te Zeebrugge
Lancering van een UBIII type op en Duitse werf
UB I types te Zeebrugge in juni 1915
UC38 een UB II type, bemerk de uitpuilende torpedobuizen
UC97 in Amerikaanse handen
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Nogmaals UC97 in de USA
UC1 op de Noordzee
UC I klasse in aanbouw op de Vulcan Werf
UC II van Flandern Flottille neemt bemanning van gezonken schip op sleeptouw en voorziet van proviand
Bemanning aangetreden van een UCII klasse te Brugge
Zinkende USS Illinois
Kragunterstand op de havendam van Zeebrugge
U-boot bunker in de haven van Oostende
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Enkele voorbeelden van de U-boot badge en twee specifieke mutsenbanden
















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Enkele beelden van de Britse poging tot blokkeren van de Zeebrugse haven op St George's Day 1918




















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Vervolg :










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Lijst met gezonken Duitse duikboten en vermoedelijke positie :

http://www.beyondmagazine.co.uk/wreck/uboat1418.htm
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Duiken op het wrak van de UB88

http://www.cdnn.info/news/article/a040127.html
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Verhaal over de UB4

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/ub4.htm
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Johannes Lohs en de UB57

http://www.gue.com/Exploration/Wreck/q3_2c.htm
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UB81 verhaal

http://www.oceanodyssey.co.uk/ub81.htm

Over het wrak van de UB81 :

http://www.portsmouthtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=455&ArticleID=1784329
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Het lot van de UC 97
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UB85 aangevallen door een zeemonster ! Embarassed Evil schater

http://www.americanmonsters.com/monsters/seamonsters/index.php?detail=article&idarticle=211
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De Britse duikboot H11 :

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1049262006
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